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Wohlstand wrote:Looping musics (without replaying of music entrance part) now is possible!

I can't get it to work. I set LOOPSTART and LOOPEND and it plays the same as it did before.
Does it work in SMBX, or only in PGE?

Sambo wrote:

Wohlstand wrote:Looping musics (without replaying of music entrance part) now is possible!

I can't get it to work. I set LOOPSTART and LOOPEND and it plays the same as it did before.
Does it work in SMBX, or only in PGE?

Am I reading this right? SMBX does not natively use OGG without proper Luna code being installed. It works for anything using the SDL2_mixer files, so yes, PGE can do it. Use sample positioning when setting labels in the audio, and set the LOOPSTART and LOOPLENGTH sample numbers in the metadata upon export. Use LOOPLENGTH, because it works just about anywhere where it can be effectively used, including PGE and RPG Maker series.
Edit: Be sure that you, in Audacity, to set timeframes as 'samples' and set time to 'length' and finally set labels to find the best beginning/end sequences you like best that sound smooth when playlooping only that middle region, and select that before beginning export. In metadata, the samples should not include things like 002850271, but should really be 2850271. Those numbers are examples, all front 0s should not be in meta.

Am I reading this right? SMBX does not natively use OGG without proper Luna code being installed.

I do have LunaLua. I knew it wouldn't work with vanilla SMBX. But it isn't working in PGE or SMBX.

Use LOOPLENGTH, because it works just about anywhere where it can be effectively used, including PGE and RPG Maker series.

It should work either way, and I don't use RPG Maker, so I don't really need to use LOOPLENGTH.

the samples should not include things like 002850271, but should really be 2850271. Those numbers are examples, all front 0s should not be in meta.

I didn't write any front 0s in the meta.

Sambo wrote:

Use LOOPLENGTH, because it works just about anywhere where it can be effectively used, including PGE and RPG Maker series.

It should work either way, and I don't use RPG Maker, so I don't really need to use LOOPLENGTH.

Could you try, at least? Both programs uses the same files, so all the steps are the same, too. I used the same method for 30+ musics, and the next step is to loop all the OGGs in the configs so Wohlstand won't have to.

I tried that, still with no success. What am I doing wrong here?
Here is the metadata:


Edit: Removed the processed with SoX thing. It didn't have any effect.

Sambo wrote:I tried that, still with no success. What am I doing wrong here?
Here is the metadata:

metadata.PNG

Edit: Removed the processed with SoX thing. It didn't have any effect.

Exporting the audio directly from Audacity without using sox (unless you want a single mass conversion) should work, and the tags are correct with or without comments...It could very well be something with the SDL2 files, because the meta tags are correct. Be sure that you should try to play it in PGE. If it works there, but not SMBX, then talk to Kevsoft, as he knows more about LUA than I do.
If it doesn't work period, whatever is making it not play correctly is out of my hands at this point. Question: Is the LOOPLENGTH the sample position at the point where you want the music to loop back to, or is that the length of the entire song or past the end of the music? I did a test, and if there isn't enough samples past the end of the looplength sample number, it won't loop at all. It's very important about how close to the end the looplength samples are. Maybe adding silence to the end will fix it, i.e. 0.2 seconds of audio/silence added AFTER the end? It worked for the few times I needed it, and when it worked, I stuck with the method and created hype for myself since.
A final solution is to send the original file to me, and I'll send it back completed for you. No credit needed, and I will test it in both programs I use that uses the OGG, to make sure it has success. (Side note: if you do send it to me, that will give me an excuse to loop other items i should have looped as well. Win-win at that point )

Sambo wrote:I tried that, still with no success. What am I doing wrong here?
Here is the metadata:

metadata.PNG

Edit: Removed the processed with SoX thing. It didn't have any effect.

Are you kept even one sample AFTER loop? You should keep even one sample after loop: please add short silence to end and retry it
P.S. Mariofan 64 told than those OGG-files are will be playd with loop ONLY in PGE, in LunaLUA-SMBX (LOOPLENGTH and LOOPEND are both works) and in RPG-Maker (LOOPLENGTH works but LOOPEND is not supported)

Are you kept even one sample AFTER loop? You should keep even one sample after loop: please add short silence to end and retry it

I cut out most of the music that wouldn't play with the loop, but I left at least 1000 samples after the place where the loop ends. Does there need to be silence at the end for it to work?

P.S. Mariofan 64 told than those OGG-files are will be playd with loop ONLY in PGE, in LunaLUA-SMBX (LOOPLENGTH and LOOPEND are both works) and in RPG-Maker (LOOPLENGTH works but LOOPEND is not supported)

So I can't have looping musics in LunaLua-SMBX at all? Or do you mean that LOOPLENGTH and LOOPEND should BOTH work? The language you used is a bit unclear.

Sambo wrote:I cut out most of the music that wouldn't play with the loop, but I left at least 1000 samples after the place where the loop ends. Does there need to be silence at the end for it to work?

Value of those samples is no matter, the thing is after loop end must be even one sample

Sambo wrote:So I can't have looping musics in LunaLua-SMBX at all? Or do you mean that LOOPLENGTH and LOOPEND should BOTH work? The language you used is a bit unclear.

WILL work, because LunaLUA-SMBX uses same audio engine with PGE,
LOOPLENGTH or LOOPEND - you must ose ONE of those variants, however most of cases we are using LOOPEND

Value of those samples is no matter, the thing is after loop end must be even one sample

What do you mean by "even one sample?" Do you mean EXACTLY one sample or AT LEAST one sample? Let me just send you the file to look at. Maybe then you can help me figure out the problem better.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37052080/Pokemon-%20Mystery%20Dungeon%20Explorers%20of%20Sky-%20Apple%20Woods-%20Music.ogg

Sambo wrote:

Value of those samples is no matter, the thing is after loop end must be even one sample

What do you mean by "even one sample?" Do you mean EXACTLY one sample or AT LEAST one sample? Let me just send you the file to look at. Maybe then you can help me figure out the problem better.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37052080/Pokemon-%20Mystery%20Dungeon%20Explorers%20of%20Sky-%20Apple%20Woods-%20Music.ogg

I downloaded it, and I fixed it up. It works for me in both programs I used, and was sealed-dealed in PGE, as it loops. I also got it more accurate in the sample numbers as well, so if you listened to it in Audacity or other program on a loop, there isn't as much choppy sound. I'll send a new download in PM. Technically, the theme you're using doesn't even need LOOPSTART and LOOPEND/LOOPLENGTH. You could've just cut the beginning silence and as close to the beginning of the theme again, and it can loop well that way. I do it too to save filesize, so don't feel guilty of not doing a loop if you can cut it and be smooth about it. I didn't improve the volume or any other changes, so it's still the same, and since it worked on my end, it should work on yours. If it doesn't, redownload PGE components.
Also, what Wohlstand meant, 'even one sample' is him trying to say is to keep at least 1 sample after the place where you want it to loop, but you can have more. There's no shame to leave a couple thousand after the loop, I assure you.

Updated the HUB, today, though. Any better than before?

PGE Engine: WIP features of upcoming 0.2.5.1-alpha

Original link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox31RezF-uw

Original Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox31RezF-uw

Wow this is really cool! I can't wait to see the shooting pipes and all the powerups.

Another video:
PGE Engine v 0.2.5.1-alpha: Experimental fireball shooting

Original link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__1VpJk0Coc

Original link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__1VpJk0Coc

Testing of a random level to test experimental fireball shooting feature (Currently works independent to powerup state and has no delay limit between shoots yet), implemented since onKeyPressed player script API event has been implemented. (To switch character use 7 and 8 keys, and to switch power-up state use 9 and 0 keys).

Level from "2k15 Summer Takeover" episode: http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11068
Official PGE Project site: http://wohlsoft.ru/PGE/

Nice. The physics look like they're pretty close to SMBX now. And I like the text box for typing in cheat codes.

Small P-Switch implementation in PGE-LUA

Original link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdNsQNzB5Ho

Original link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdNsQNzB5Ho

First test of graphics API (Made to be compatible with LunaLUA API):

Will it be possible to have Mode-7 styled secial effects (scaling and rotating real-time) in PGE?

Alucard wrote:Will it be possible to have Mode-7 styled secial effects (scaling and rotating real-time) in PGE?

Yes!